Working on a new idea and need feedback

[Nyx]

I want to update the information available on the Lineage website. This is a large task, as the webpage information has not been updated in quite awhile.

So, first question - specifically what areas of our website do you guys think needs the most attention? My thought is that we need more information, specifically guides, that assist players in getting started, completing quests, leveling, etc.

One idea I have been working on is a something like a contest where players write guides and if your guide is selected, you would receive a prize. I would draw up a template, players could decide which guide they wanted to write and all guides selected would receive the prize.

Next question - what guides do you think we need? I was thinking along the lines of How to Start a <insert class here>, How to Complete <insert quest here>, Guide to leveling 1-45? There are lots of possibilities with crafting, cooking, fishing etc.

Last question What would be a reward that would entice you to spend the time to write a good guide? Thinks reasonably please - we won't be handing out +10 Doom Blades. What I would like is to put together a list of desirable items for all the classes, and then the winners could select off the list the item that they wanted most - perhaps things like hard to get crafting materials that you want to craft a specific item.

Feedback? Suggestions?

[SoulFire]

I think this is a fantastic idea ! the most difficult part of the game is for new players the most common question is " How do I get started " ?We get it here on the forum as well.


1-45 leveling guide is great, The getting started guide for each class is also great.


This game has never been noob friendly and this is certainly one way to change that.


In terms of items I was going to say +10 doomblade but you already ruled that one out so i'll leave it to other players...

[vPink]

I don't know if this applys to all but, I always find it akward having to go on other sites for item information, and I'm assuming it would be more accurate for the officials to put a database up for players to access. Instead of players having to go on foreign site and learn it there using a translator. Causing a misunderstanding with items, since we are far behind on updates.

[Feandel]

I can throw you a handful of ideas for rewards. They are essentially clones of the items being sold by the feather traders, but give specific buffs that are otherwise class exclusive. Or you could go the candy route like the long gone fun times of post halloween events (brave candies ftw!!!)

The best item slot to target is the earrings, since most of them don't add a "big" benefit (and those that do, virtually nobody has), which means that swapping them out won't have any real impact.

Some of the buffs to have:

Braves
Elemental Fire
Reduction Armor
Uncanny Dodge
Advance Spirit
Brave / Glowing Aura
Storm Shot
Nature's Touch

Obviously, some of these would be all by themselves (Braves for example) and others might come with other perks (Nature's Touch might come with additional mp regen).

As for duration...That I hesitate to say on. I'm pretty sure them having the maximum feather cost worth of duration would be enough of an enticement, but that might also be overshooting the mark. Still, it would certainly get my attention. I've always wondered what "class x" using "buff y" would be like. In the case of elves...I love braves.

[PyroAmos]

go true lineage style... either give out kv swords, kaiser weapons and beleth staffs, or 2h swords, steel edos and oak staffs depending on your mood.

[Vamp]

lol pyro.

How about ingredients for crafting the executioner weapons w/e theyre called. like the letter 1-8 that drop from the supreme justices, or the black power that you need to blow those pages.

Or how about ingredients for the drugan clan quest things (blood of *dragon* scale of *dragon* claw of *dragon*) so that people could do that quest if they actually managed to get 4 which is still hard, and that would give a chance for a dragon slayer rarely. So that your not giving a lot but your still giving something great.

Guides:
lvl 52-65 guide. lvl 1-48 guide. Quest guides would be nice but there are no quests in lineage... Boss hunting guide?

I think what we really need is a reliable database for monsters and their drops. Something that our server matches. Linlib might already do this but im skeptical about the drops.

[SarahJane]

You so specifically said no +10 Doomblades to irk me! I know it! But that is ok, +9 is just fine.

Good idea though and yesy my opinion is that the guide needs to be updated. Once upon a time when half of my family played lineage we all printed out the guides that were on the page at the time... long time ago. It helped my family members get aquainted with the game easily and without driving me insane with questions lol. The guide, if updated and current is an immeasurably useful tool.

As far as items go. We can come up with a grab bag type item that gives random items. It can be used all the time as well... like for contests of other sorts etc. It'll be called the "NCW Thank you bag".

We players decide what lists of items we would like to have and this bag can randomly give you one whenever NCW decideds to award you with one. Hope I'm not confusing you guys... hope you can tell where I am going. It'll be like the Christmas Gift socks of old except with a different purpose and better list of items.

Edit: Bags can be different levels for small things to large things. They can give out the following (all of these are 1 line per bag, not all :P);
20nzels
15ndais
5bzels
10bdais
2m adena
5m adena
Ancient Scroll
1k wafers
1k braves
1k mgems
1k g-blue
1k dark stones

If you want to add rare items then;
DK Sword
Demon/Beleth Staff
Kaiser claw/edo
Diamond sword
Sayha bow
+9Doom Blade

Or any of the stat tshirt of choice
or elixir of choice.

Second priority would be Linweb/castle control stuff. Linweb was so different back then though, thousands of pages to look at, now it seems everyone is so intimately aquainted with one another it's not worth it QQ

[PyroAmos]

http://www.lineagewiki.com/index.php...ategory:Quests

http://www.lineagewiki.com/index.php...ategory:Guides

can jack those, most of them were jacked from lineagedb (and a couple from lineageone) before they went flop... most of the guides are prty acurate (or at least were in last ep, stuff thats changed in this one would have to be either rewritten, edited or thrown out)

[Nyx]

One of the rules would have to be that it was your own personal work. Stealing from an existing guide wouldn't earn you a prize. Obviously much of the info will be the same, but the wording would have to be your own, and screenshots would obviously need to be current.

[LOADefy]

Originally Posted by Nyx

So, first question - specifically what areas of our website do you guys think needs the most attention? My thought is that we need more information, specifically guides, that assist players in getting started, completing quests, leveling, etc.... Next question - what guides do you think we need?

When I visit a website like LineageCompendium, LineageDB, LinLib, etc... I always go for 2 reasons: Drops and Crafting. It'd be nice to see a legit database on this site, but I'd hate to take the credit from the hardcore fans that created them already. If I contribute anything it will be unique, maybe a "Secrets/tricks of Lineage Guide".

Originally Posted by Nyx

...What would be a reward that would entice you to spend the time to write a good guide?

Rare Items that you can't get normally in-game.
- Pumpkin Costume (Jack O' Lantern Polymorph)
- Scarecrow Hat (Scarecrow Polymorph)
- Stacks of Pumpkin Candy
- Stacks of X-Mas buff coins
- A Freedom Cloak (omg :P)
- X-Mas Tree (furniture)
- etc..

[Confusion]

What a great idea nyx! This is something the game has been missing for far to long. Prizes should be like
rare pets (tiger jindo)
fire sc soul of flame
demon staff
beleth staff
rhonde edoryu
kvs
dks

[Troje]

Great to see that work will finally be done on those outdated guides XD.

As for the rewards... no endgame items at all. If you want to give us end game items, give us another boss island event this year, but dont put anything especially Soul of Flame into a contest like this.

My ideas for the rewards:

Rare Items that you can't get normally in-game.
- Pumpkin Costume (Jack O' Lantern Polymorph)
- Scarecrow Hat (Scarecrow Polymorph)
- Stacks of Pumpkin Candy
- Stacks of X-Mas buff coins
- A Freedom Cloak (omg :P)
- X-Mas Tree (furniture)
- etc..

As said by Defy..

[Blip]

I think it's funny that people call a spell for one elemental line of an elf an "end game item."

...but the freedom cloak? omg, of COURSE that should be a reward.

[Khaine_KenRahuel]

Originally Posted by Nyx

Feedback? Suggestions?

I disagree with just about everyone else, writting a guide shouldn't get you rewarded with anything really worthwhile in game.

If you wanna give out prizes, id say feathers or some vintage gear that was available during once in a lifetime events like psword, parmor, pumpkin costume, bunny ammy, crawling claw ring, vigor set.

[Endurance]

The prize should be a 60 day time card!

[Feandel]

Originally Posted by Endurance

The prize should be a 60 day time card!

Stop and think for a moment about the impact of having multiple people not paying for their account for a couple months...

Our servers are already undermanned and underfunded...

[Endurance]

Originally Posted by Feandel

Stop and think for a moment about the impact of having multiple people not paying for their account for a couple months...

Our servers are already undermanned and underfunded...

It's not the whole population, only a select few. NC is not hurting if they hand out few time cards. Don't forget Lineage 1 isn't the only source of income for them!

[Protege5]

Originally Posted by Endurance

It's not the whole population, only a select few. NC is not hurting if they hand out few time cards. Don't forget Lineage 1 isn't the only source of income for them!

But if Lin1 is not making money for NCK then it will all up to the morality of NCK to kill it or not. So I don't like the idea of free playing either. In the end it's all about business.

[Feandel]

Originally Posted by Endurance

It's not the whole population, only a select few. NC is not hurting if they hand out few time cards. Don't forget Lineage 1 isn't the only source of income for them!

What I was saying is that they need every account that they can get paid for and active. Giving away free time is counter productive to that end, but giving in-game incentives that makes your playing experience more enjoyable (even if only for a limited time) is not.

While it is true that Lineage 1 isn't their only source, Lineage 1 needs to remain profitable in some fashion to continue existing. Given the current population numbers and the amount of time and energy being invested into the new updates, Lineage 1 is operating on a razor thin margin. I'd rather they didn't fiddle around with anything that can throw that out of whack.

I think it would a great idea if the feather items were buffed to the point that they were great rewards to hand out for a short time. They should have special effects, high enchant safety values, or other whacky and fun perks, rather than being 2nd rate short-lived items that no-one will ever bother with.

Think about them as being "miniature" events for one person. A weapon that drains health and/or mana on hit, a ring that grants you the bravery effect, helms that give you the silver morphs, an earing that gives you a certain spell that costs 0mp to cast (Cone of Cold, Erupt, Sunburst, that sort of thing). And then when the time runs out, they're gone. No harm done, just some fun to be had.

_edit_

In fact! If they were to implement this, they could have a wide variety of events take place with a single change. By simply adding in drops of those feathers, you have a special item event, polymorph event, special buffs, etc etc et. With one simple change.

[karna]

Originally Posted by Nyx

I want to update the information available on the Lineage website. This is a large task, as the webpage information has not been updated in quite awhile.

So, first question - specifically what areas of our website do you guys think needs the most attention? My thought is that we need more information, specifically guides, that assist players in getting started, completing quests, leveling, etc.

From my experience, most people who play Lineage have some experience playing other MMOGs and are usually able to get along by speaking to others and being referred to fansites such as lineagedb.com or linlib.com or lineageone.com. That being said, the new level 50 quests in-game definitely require a guide for each class. I saw one post put up on the test server for the royal. Kudos to the person who did that. My thought is that the one thing the majority of the population require is clear significant data on drop tables and monster info. Other MMOG companies either directly put this information up on their official websites or provide support to fan sites that put up this information for them. A while back, NC changed its stance and if I remember correctly, Fracas provided information specifically on several monsters' elemental weakness/strength among other data to Lineagedb.com. That was a pleasant surprise and proved quite helpful to a lot of people. Considering that lineage 1 has always been a host to a relatively small population of players, NC should either provide a lot more data on their own website or at the very least, provide help to other players who have taken it upon themselves to help the playing population out of pure interest.

One idea I have been working on is a something like a contest where players write guides and if your guide is selected, you would receive a prize. I would draw up a template, players could decide which guide they wanted to write and all guides selected would receive the prize.

As someone mentioned earlier, if any prices were to be given out, NC should start by giving them out to the people who currently are doing a lot for this game. Hosting websites are a far more difficult job than writing just 1 guide.

Next question - what guides do you think we need? I was thinking along the lines of How to Start a <insert class here>, How to Complete <insert quest here>, Guide to leveling 1-45? There are lots of possibilities with crafting, cooking, fishing etc.

Clear and precise karma guides for both factions for people in both lvl45~52 and 52+ TOS/Dimension Door, all class respective guides are what I feel are lacking. I disagree with giving a leveling guide for particular levels as I feel that this takes away from the individual's possibility to explore and learn from the game. Instructions such as 5~15 go place X, 15~30 go place Y, 30~45 go place Z would completely take away from the individual's ability to both learn about the lesser known places of the game and interact with other people to learn.

Last question What would be a reward that would entice you to spend the time to write a good guide? Thinks reasonably please - we won't be handing out +10 Doom Blades. What I would like is to put together a list of desirable items for all the classes, and then the winners could select off the list the item that they wanted most - perhaps things like hard to get crafting materials that you want to craft a specific item.

I can only speak for myself here. If you promise to help revamp and re-adjust the game according to the needs of the playing population, once all updates are in the door of course, that would be sufficient motivation for me individually to help write any guide that you require.